A new feature in macOS 12.3 and iOS/iPadOS 15.4 is the ability to add notes to password entries. You can use this to store extra information about an account, or to create secure text notes inside of the iCloud Keychain.
Keith: What don't you like about 1Password? Been using it for years myself. As for using Apple's solution, yes it is secure.
Larry White
3 years ago
I find 1Password to be frustratingly buggy. I still haven't figured out how to have it fill out my address on web forms. The only reason I haven't converted to Mac Safari Passwords is because, until now, it didn't allow users to add notes. I'm thrilled that MacOS 15.3 now allows that.
Thanks for the video, Gary.
Sue Bready
3 years ago
Thanks Gary, I found this interesting. I have used my Mac for passwords in the past but find 1Password the best solution for me. With that said, this has definitely given me something to think about.
Ken
3 years ago
1Password is very confusing, I’ve been locked out of some sites. They tell me I’m using wrong user ID or password. I click on the one that is my vault. The Vault has multiple for the same address.
Ken: That's just a matter of recognizing what you have in the database. If you have added multiple passwords for the same site, you've got to figure that out. 1Password can't know which one is right. Same with any password manager, including Apple's.
Gaztrav
3 years ago
I’ve always thought Keychain was lacking compared to LastPass, for instance, but this is a bit of a gamechanger for me.
Maxi
3 years ago
I agree with those above. I gave it a good try but could not get on with it. In the end, They were kind enough to refund my money though. Good customer service - both speed and quality of interactions with me.
Lawrence Moore
3 years ago
I'm still using Keychain. How does it relate to Passwords? It's not clear to me what Safari's role is. It seems to still retrieve items from Keychain. Keychain has a Secure Notes tab which allows free-form notes.
Lawrence: Keychain Access allows you to access all of the entries of all different kinds, stored in the Keychain (certificates, credentials, passwords, etc). Safari (and System Preferences) just deal with web passwords. The main thing Safari does is to provide strong passwords when you sign up for something (or change password) and automatically stores it. It then fills it in automatically. Like any password manager.
ScottH
3 years ago
In creating a new password entry I found not putting a dot domain at the end of a website name does not allow you to save the entry. The good news is it doesn't care if it is a non-valid domain (eg ".notes"). and if you swipe to type the name it even allows you to create spaces in the name. (eg. {some long. notes").
I wish an alternative passcode could be used in place of TouchID to access, in case I needed another person to access for me.
Thought these might be helpful to you an others.
Carl Sechrest
3 years ago
I like to keep an updated hard copy of my passwords in the bank safe deposit box. It's easy enough to print out all of my passwords using a password manager but is there a preferred way to do that with Keychain?
I have a 1Password account but ‘hate it’. Is Apple Password Manager secure and a good option rather than 1Password(which has a subscription cost.
Keith: What don't you like about 1Password? Been using it for years myself. As for using Apple's solution, yes it is secure.
I find 1Password to be frustratingly buggy. I still haven't figured out how to have it fill out my address on web forms. The only reason I haven't converted to Mac Safari Passwords is because, until now, it didn't allow users to add notes. I'm thrilled that MacOS 15.3 now allows that.
Thanks for the video, Gary.
Thanks Gary, I found this interesting. I have used my Mac for passwords in the past but find 1Password the best solution for me. With that said, this has definitely given me something to think about.
1Password is very confusing, I’ve been locked out of some sites. They tell me I’m using wrong user ID or password. I click on the one that is my vault. The Vault has multiple for the same address.
Ken: That's just a matter of recognizing what you have in the database. If you have added multiple passwords for the same site, you've got to figure that out. 1Password can't know which one is right. Same with any password manager, including Apple's.
I’ve always thought Keychain was lacking compared to LastPass, for instance, but this is a bit of a gamechanger for me.
I agree with those above. I gave it a good try but could not get on with it. In the end, They were kind enough to refund my money though. Good customer service - both speed and quality of interactions with me.
I'm still using Keychain. How does it relate to Passwords? It's not clear to me what Safari's role is. It seems to still retrieve items from Keychain. Keychain has a Secure Notes tab which allows free-form notes.
Lawrence: Keychain Access allows you to access all of the entries of all different kinds, stored in the Keychain (certificates, credentials, passwords, etc). Safari (and System Preferences) just deal with web passwords. The main thing Safari does is to provide strong passwords when you sign up for something (or change password) and automatically stores it. It then fills it in automatically. Like any password manager.
In creating a new password entry I found not putting a dot domain at the end of a website name does not allow you to save the entry. The good news is it doesn't care if it is a non-valid domain (eg ".notes"). and if you swipe to type the name it even allows you to create spaces in the name. (eg. {some long. notes").
I wish an alternative passcode could be used in place of TouchID to access, in case I needed another person to access for me.
Thought these might be helpful to you an others.
I like to keep an updated hard copy of my passwords in the bank safe deposit box. It's easy enough to print out all of my passwords using a password manager but is there a preferred way to do that with Keychain?
Carl: You can export your password in Safari preferences or System Preferences. That is a text document you can then open and print.
@ScottH: Your login password always works as an alternative to TouchID.