With some new M1 Macs out, and other updates to the Mac line coming in 2021, I'm being asked by many people if they should wait and buy a new M-class Mac, or pick up an Intel Mac now. I'm going to change my advice on buying new Macs in this special situation.
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Hi, this is Gary with MacMost.com. With the end of 2020 approaching let's look at whether or not you should be buying a new Mac.
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So this is an odd time to be buying a new Mac. Apple has just started its transition from Intel processors to its own M class processors. They started at the low end with the MacBook Air, the Mac Mini, and the 2 thunderbolt port 13 inch MacBook Pro. I expect them next to go to the mid range and come out with new iMacs and perhaps a mid range MacBook Pro. We'll probably see that in the first six months of 2021. Then they'll probably go to the high end covering the iMac Pro and the Mac Pro. Now whether or not the 16 inch MacBook Pro is included in the high end or the mid range we'll have to see. I do expect there to be different processors in each of these groups. So we have the M1 processor in the low end machines. In the mid range we'll get something new. Maybe it will be the M2. Maybe it will be called the M1A. We'll have to see. Then probably another jump in performance for the high end machines. They'll probably wrap it all up either at the end of 2021 or the first six months of 2022. So if you're in the market for a new Mac this puts you in an odd position. If the type of Mac you want, say the iMac, is still using an Intel processor do you buy what they have now or do you wait until they upgrade the processor and then get that model.
Now usually I advise people to buy a new Mac when they want it or need it. Not delay that purchase just because of a rumor or some predicted schedule of release. Usually the next update is only incrementally better and as soon as that comes out there are already rumors for the model after that. So I say just get what they have now because now is when you want or need the Mac and don't pay attention to rumors and things. However this is a special situation. It isn't a rumor that Apple is going to replace these Intel Macs with M class processor Macs. It's going to happen and it isn't even speculation on when. Apple says they'll complete this by 2022. So with 2021 just around the corner we can predict that in the next 12 to say 18 months we'll probably see everything replaced and Apple no longer selling Intel Macs. As of matter of fact you could look at all of Apple's Intel Macs now and say that these are the top of the line Intel Macs. Apple is never going to come out with more powerful Intel Macs than what they have right now. The next step for every model is going to be to a M class processor.
In addition to that all of the reports from everybody behind these new M1 Macs is that it's a significant performance leap over the Intel Macs. I've got a new MacBook Pro myself and I tested it and seen that it's true. As a matter of fact in some tests it even beats my 12 core Xeon Mac Pro machine. I'm talking about the low end version. Probably whatever they put in iMacs is going to be even more powerful. So it's really hard for me to advise anybody now to buy an Intel Mac. It's going to be replaced with something more powerful very soon. But there are some reason you still might want to pick up an Intel Mac. One is if you really really need it now and you've got the budget for it. Say you use it for work and you're having problems with your existing Mac or it's just too old to take on a new project that you're working on. Then you may want to consider getting that new iMac or high end MacBook Pro or iMac Pro or Mac Pro just because you need it right now and you can't wait for the new M class version of that Mac to come out. I would try to hold off if you can but if you really can't then you've got to go with what's available now. You know that you'll still be able to use it for several more years. The other reason is if you use Windows on your Mac. If you dual boot to Windows on your Mac or you use something like Parallels or VM ware to access Windows' apps that's only possible in the current Macs because they have Intel processors. So once you go to a M class Mac you will no longer be able to do that. Maybe there might be some solution in the future. But right now I wouldn't count on it. So if that's really important to you and getting just a second computer that's a PC to take care of those tasks isn't an option then you may want to consider getting one of the Intel Macs out today. They're the top of the line. Apple is never going to produce more powerful Intel Macs than what they have now. So buying one now makes sense or maybe even waiting a little while and picking up a used or refurbished one would make sense because there's not going to be a newer model.
But back to the M1 Macs. Are there any down sides to buying one right now. Yes, there are. There's compatibility issues with some software. Now for the most part things just work. If you're already using Catalina or Big Sur on your current Mac then it's not going to be a huge deal because Catalina and Big Sur already require that you're using 64-bit apps. So if you were using any old 32-bit apps you've already updated those apps or found replacements. For the most part the 64-bit apps used now are going to work fine on the M1 processor. A lot of them have already been updated to run natively on their processor. All of the Apple apps have. Even ones like Final Cut Pro, Logic and Motion. Now a lot of the big apps from other companies like Microsoft and Adobe run fine in emulation but both of those companies have already said that they've got new native versions of those apps coming very soon. So if you use other software it's really easy to figure out whether or not that app runs well on the M1 Macs. All you need to do is go to the developers website. They'll either say their app runs find in emulation. They might say that they have a new version of the app out. Many developers, like Affinity, Pixelmator, Panic, they have already come out with their new native apps for the M1. Other apps may work fine in emulation. Sometimes even running faster than on your existing Mac. Some apps, like the app I use to record, Screen Flow, works mostly fine but a key function is missing on the M1. However, they have already said they are working on it. This is already very different than when Apple switched from the power PC to the Intel Macs. It seemed like it took forever for developers to catch up. Here we have many major developers releasing new versions of their apps that run natively on the M1 processor right from day one. It seems like it's happening a lot faster probably because it's a lot easier transition. So while there are some growing pains right now I think as the days, weeks, months, go by those will go away as developers simply update their apps.
So if there is some piece of software that doesn't work on the new M class processors right now by the time an iMac or higher end MacBook Pro comes out it probably will. So looking at whether or not you should buy if you're thinking of a MacBook Air, well Apple only sells the M1 processor MacBook Air now. So the decision there is easy. If you're thinking of a 13 inch MacBook Pro and just want the one with two thunderbolt ports, well that's the M1 processor as well. But anything with more thunderbolt ports including the 16 inch MacBook Pro you're going to have to wait for Apple to come out with a new version using the M1 or M1A or M2 or whatever it's going to be. The same goes for all iMacs. I really wouldn't buy an Intel iMac right now if you can help it. Instead wait for Apple to come out with new iMacs next year. It's a little trickier with the Pro models because I don't expect there to be an iMac Pro or Mac Pro next year. There might be towards the end of the year but I think Apple is really going to want to boost the performance in these processors, maybe even to see if they can work in a separate GPU for those as well. So you may have to wait a whole other year for those machines. So if you're one of those people that wants a top of the line machine and is willing to buy a new Mac every other year or so, then the current iMac Pro or Mac Pros are probably still a valid choice. But I think the general answer for most people is to buy one of the new M1 Macs if that model is the one you want. Otherwise wait for Apple to upgrade the iMac or new MacBook Pro that you want to the new M class processors before buying.
Let me know what you think. Are you considering buying one of the new Intel Macs now or are you waiting for Apple to improve the M class processors a little bit more before getting a new Mac.
If the expense of a new Intel Mac can be written off as a business expense then if you need an upgrade just do it. A Mac for personal use is a balance of need and expense, so it depends.
Thanks, Gary. I wonder if the Intel macs will be discounted because they are becoming old stock and old technology?
Will: I doubt it. Apple (and Tim Cook) are masters at supply chain. They probably have just enough to satisfy demand.
Something else to consider is the Trade-In program. In my case, I'm trading in a well-spec'd 2018 mini for $690. That makes my cost for a 8GB/256GB mini $9. I upgraded the storage to 512GB and paid $299 to switch to the M1.
Granted, I paid nearly $1,900 for the mini new and I could probably get more if I used Ebay or CraigsList but the Trade-In program makes it very easy to get into a new machine.
Our son is buying a MacBook Air with the new chip. He will have to also buy Word(2011) as the version on his very old MacBook Pro (El Capitan) won't work with the OS. Will buy with lots of GB of storage so this lasts a LONG time. I appreciate your comments. anything else we should consider?
I agree with your normal recommendations (with my phone, etc). But this is a special case. I've been planning for a year to go ARM to replace my late 2013 iMac. It's a race though with a program I need being converted to 64-bit. I boot to a SSD for Mojave to run it now. Both upgrades may be ready in 1st quarter of 2021. That's what I'm hoping for.
I'm trading in my 2013 15" Macbook Pro for the 13" Pro. I figure waiting for any improvements on M1 processor is a waste of time because Apple will always be improving it.
Worth bearing in mind that non-Apple vendors are likely to defocus their Intel Mac versions and concentrate on their Mn processor versions, so if you are a heavy user of non-Apple apps and new features and enhancements in your non- Apple apps are important to you, then you might be best waiting until your choice of Mn-powered Mac is available.
Jane: The current version of Word runs fine on the M1, though it should run even better soon as Microsoft has said they have a native version coming in an update.
Thanks Gary - when they buy the 64 bit Word program I'm sure there won't be a problem - I had to do that when Catalina came out. I don't know what a native version means... (sorry) I am wondering if they should load the new Word when they get the new Air before using the Time machine back up to load the computer with their stuff...
Jane: Native just means it is compiled to run directly on the M1 processor, instead of Intel processor. Doesn't matter if you get the new Word now or later, but might as well get it now. You can get it right from the Mac App Store, which I recommend. And then you just need your Microsoft subscription to unlock the features.
For a start. let customers know that when buying a Mac with an M1 chip, tell them beforehand that they need a WIRED KB and mouse to get the machine up and running. Secondly, plain instructions telling the customer to plug in their wired KB and mouse instead of looking at two lines and tiny green spot. It took me over an hour to work out what it was. Apple has now taken the minimalist view to the extreme and it is frustrating. Not everybody is intuitive. As to the main problem? I was unable to i
Thank you Gary for the great review. I do use Parallels for running some Windows programs and I read they are actively developing an M1 compatible version.
Jean: Why do people need a wired keyboard and mouse? I don't understand what you are referring to there. Did you buy an M1 Mac mini and then have trouble with your existing bluetooth keyboard? The situation varies depending on the keyboard, I'm sure, but it should look for it and give you some options.
Dan: Keep in mind that Parallels for M1 doesn't mean Windows for M1. Parallels just means you can run virtual machines. Windows would have to be compatible with the process to then work in one of those virtual machines. Either that, or Parallels would need to emulate an Intel processor. I haven't heard that they are working on that.
Am eager to snag an M1 mini but my guts tell me to wait because first gen apple releases are always sure to get orphaned faster than other models. All the same am chomping at the bit so question for me is do I get a simpler model expecting to upgrade sooner or pony up for full horse model and suffer gladly.
Hi Gary. Thank you for your very balanced advice. I've ordered an Air for my wife and a Pro for me.
I agree with buying a new machine when you need it but one should always have a quick look at where the machine your considering is in the average lifecycle for that model. Nobody wants to buy a shiny new machine only to see it upgraded the month after. No point in waiting forever but a couple of months could sometimes be prudent.
I'm trying to decide, really don't want to spend the money right now. Traveling and my battery is lasting about an hour. I went through the test and it says needs attention. I have a MacBookPro 15" mid 2015 and except for the battery runs great. Should I try the new battery first?
Happy Thanksgiving Gary.
Missy: That's up to you. You definitely need to do something if it says your battery needs attention. So you need to price a battery replacement from a local shop and weigh that price against putting them money toward a new MacBook instead.
Greetings, Your input please! I have a 2015 MacMini -- the OS is no longer "updatable" and TurboTax 2020 will not run on it, according to TurboTax. Originally I was going to buy an Intel iMac, but decided against that at this time for all the reasons Gary states. So I think, just to go with the new MacMini . . . Does the new MM come with the M 1? Also, any suggestions on the best place to purchase the new MM? Thanks in advance!
Hi Gary
I'm running a MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012) running Catalina which means I'm at the end of the upgrade line. I'm still very happy with the performance but what are the security concerns of not being on the latest OS release? Will Apple release patches to Catalina as vulnerabilities are discovered in the future?
Got my newest Mac Desktop 4-6 weeks ago. Prior one was still working but barely at 10 years of age. LOVE the new one other than my Office for Mac Suite doesn’t work - slowly figuring the work arounds - don’t care for Microsoft 360. You are 100% correct about transition from 32 bit to 64 bit by developers. Already found some of the older apps that were struggling to work on new Mac Desktop are now working fine w developer changes. As for M1, I’ll worry about it in a few years.
@Ginny Rodgers
Your 2014 Mac Mini can run Big Sur, so feel free to update it. TurboTax 2020's minimum requirement is Mojave.
Hi Gary - ret'd old geezer running 20" mid 2007 iMac, stuck on iOS 10.9.5 - was about to buy new iMac until M1 chip launched - 1st thought = wait for MI chipped iMacs - 2nd thought - buy MI Mini & use old iMac as monitor = apparently not possible - don't want massive monitor - can you point me at any quality compatible 21/22" monitors?
Ginny: You can get a new Mac mini M1 or Intel (but the whole point of my video is you shouldn't buy an Intel Mac anymore). Isn't TurboTax online? Seems odd to be using a local app for something like that. Purchase from Apple.
Rob: Apple usually releases security updates for old version of macOS for a few years, so you are OK for now on that front.
Geoff: All computer screen sold today will work with Mac, Windows, Linux, etc. You don't need anything special. But I would get something that us UHD (AKA retina). 4K screens seem to be the standard today. They usually run $250 or so. Anything smaller and you'll be getting less from your Mac mini. And connect it with a standard USB-C to (mini) DisplayPort cable. Don't use HDMI.
Many thanks for this Gary. I'm ready to replace my iMac 21.5 in., but will wait. It's a late 2009 model, 8 GB memory, 1 TB HD with 2/3 space available, but I can't upgrade past High Sierra, and it's getting slower though it runs smooth. Will I be able to migrate my data from the old machine to the new one by blue tooth, or will I have to hardwire them?
Sean: I don't think Bluetooth is an option. Cable or from Time Machine backup is best, if you aren't just using iCloud.
Supplementary: Looking at the Mac Mini M1, I'm wondering if I'd be wise to buy it and hard wire it to my 2009 iMac. It's got more RAM and is available with 1TB SSD storage. That would make my previous question about migration moot. But, would I still be able to use the camera, speakers and mic on the old display, and would you recommend instead I just buy a 4K display?
Thanks, Gary, for this very timely update. I'm now trying to decide whether to get the M1 powered MacBook Pro (with its 13" monitor and 2 USB-C ports) or to wait @ 1/2 year and get a 15" M1A or M2 powered 15" MacBook Pro with 4 usb-c ports. Any guess as to what a Mx powered 15" MacBook Pro might offer over its 13" M1 MacBook Pro, other than monitor size, 2 more usb-c ports, bigger speakers, and faster speed? I ask because you're closer to more sources of the latest info than I am. TIA.
Thank you very much Gary, very useful!
Sean: So use your iMac as a screen? It could be possible if your iMac model has that feature. But I wouldn't do that. A 2009 iMac would be an old display. Get a modern UHD (retina) display. They are cheap and much more energy efficient than using your iMac. Plus it will look much much better. Be a shame to cripple your new Mac mini with a old 2009 non-UHD display.
Paul: I can only speculate. But in addition to 4 ports, we may get higher memory options and a faster M1a or M2 processor. Maybe with more cores. Your guess is as good as mine.
Gary, you’re the best. Thanks for your great advice, and insights.
Many thanks, Gary - I will explore your recommendations!
Thank you, Gary and Jared. For some reason, I thought my MacMini (Late 2012) could not be updated and thus thought I needed to get a new computer! (I don't/won't do TurboTax online). So I'll just update my MM - and get a new iMac (the one I really want) whenever they are released with the M1. Thanks again!
I bought a 27" 3.8GHz iMac about 3-4 months ago and when the new M1 Macs were released I regretted it for a short time but then I realised I have a power house of a machine that I can easily run Windows VMs on (which I need) plus I can attached 2 extra screens to the iMac for a total of 3 screens which I don't think you can do with the M1 Macs. In a couple of years I will look at the M series machines again and probably look at getting a laptop to replace my current 2012 MacBook Pro
I have a mid July 2011 Mac Mini. My Mac OS is High Sierra and I cannot upgrade to Mojave.I use TurboTax Deluxe CD version. In order to use 2020 TurboTax Deluxe the minimum Mac OS is Mojave. I will need to purchase a new Mac Mini. I would very much like to buy the Mac Mini using the M1 chip. However, Intuit has not issued a press release stating that TurboTax has issued a version that can run on an Apple Mac Mini using the M1 chip and Mac OS Big Sur like it did for Quicken 6
Intel or M1?
Thank
Gregg: I thought TurboTax as a web-based thing. Even you use the CD version, can you not use the web-based version instead? No CD-ROM on a new Mac anyway. Have you tried reaching out to their support to ask. Rosetta 2 should make it work on the M1 even if the company has done nothing to support it.
Hi Gary
You are correct Turbotax is web based. I prefer using the CD version rather than online. I have an external CD drive connects thru USB port. I have called TurboTax Deluxe support and was told minimum hardware requirements multi core Intel processor with 64-bit support. When I asked if Turbotax Deluxe can run on Mac Mini using the M1 chip the representative did not know. Can Rosetta 2 emulate successfully TurboTax Deluxe using M1 processor? With Intel chip Turbo Tax Deluxe will work
Gregg: My guess is yes, but since their support isn't helping you may just need to try it to find out.
Hi Gary
Thank you very much for your input.
Gregg
Hello Gary, I am a senior and totally ignorant when it comes to technology. I am using an iMac that I purchased in 2010. I use it for basic stuff like reading articles, Facebook, maybe a Words With Friends type game or two. I do have 10,000 plus photos on it, all family related for the most part. My iMac is now giving me problems with viewing certain email photos or seeing for sale items on certain retailer sites. What do I replace this unit with?
Ray: That's up to you. Apple has a variety. If you like the iMac, get a new iMac. I expect Apple to come out with newer models this year at some point, but the models they have now will work fine for your needs too.