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How and When To Type En and Em Dashes On a Mac
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grammar and Mac OS, thanks Gary - never knew this!
Very interesting. I never knew this. don’t think I learned it in school.
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Thanks Gary. Sometimes when I'm writing, a hyphen appears for a dash - and sometimes a dash appears.
Never knew how to access them individually. Brill!
Light dawns! Thank you, Gary! I never knew the difference between the en dash and the em dash, let alone how to type them on the Mac.
Hi Gary, Interesting, I was unaware of the en dash or em dash. But I found something interesting on my iMac. If it type the hyphen twice, or three times, I get an em dash. This using the Text Edit app. Holding the option key and then hitting the hyphen key is the only way I've found to get the en dash character.
Gary is brilliant!
Thanks for sharing your journalistic skills with us.
In MS Word for Mac, you can convert hyphens to dashes automatically as you type.
Go to: Tools>AutoCorrect Options>AutoFormat As You Type> and check the box beside “Hypens (--) with dash (—)”
This will convert double hyphens to em-dashes.
It will also convert “space-hyphen-space” into “space-en dash-space” as you type. In some style guides, this is preferred to using an em-dash without spaces.
Cameron & Jeff: Yes, different apps will allow you to type en and em dashes in other ways. Pages also has that, in Edit, Substitutions, Smart Dashes.
I learned this in high-school typing class in 1951. Thanks for keeping clarity alive!
Well I'll be, thanks Gary.
Hi Gary, never knew this before and your explanation is very effective and simple to understand. I appreciate you gave us this lesson.
Having a magazine publisher before Pagemaker–Quark–InDesign came along I feel limited when trying to use good typographic standards on the WWW.
Has ASCII built-in a work around for browser delivery of en and em dashes to display in something other than gibberish symbols?
And having set moveable type by hand the standard back then was SPACE –––EM TEXT with a close of TEXT–––EM SPACE.
Barry: Modern browsers and wen site software do a much better job with special characters today. But you can use – and — when writing HTML too.
Thanks Gary, that's very helpful.
Gary, what is this character called & used for? ~ Thanks!
Kathleen: That is the ampersand. In grammar, it is a shortcut for the word "and" usually used in titles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ampersand In coding, like HTML, it is used for special things.
Gary, thanks for clearly explaining hyphens and dashes. However, the terms actually originate with hot-metal type setting before total acceptance of proportional spacing. The basic measure was the em which was a 12 point measure and the en was exactly half being 6 points. These, of course, varied as to the font size being 12, 10, 8, 6 points etc. The was also a third measure being the “nonple” or nonpareil which was 3 points. To add to the confusion there was also the 10 point Cicero scale.
Thanks Gary, very interesting. Made me think that a video on using the keyboard viewer could be interesting to people. I've found it very handy when trying to type characters that I very rarely use that are not shown on the standard keyboard.
Thanks Gary. I know about hyphens, en and em dashes, but until now I didn't know how to produce them on a Mac keyboard. And I'd still like to know how a create ascii characters on a Mac? Can you tell me that? Thanks Bob
Thanks, good to know this.
Bob: What do you mean? All characters are ASCII characters.
Another nugget from Gary.
Good to know.
Many thanks.
Gary: you responded to Kathleen regarding ampersand. I believe she was referring to the tilde " ~ " not "&" in her question. thanks for the dash tip!
Dan: ~ (tilde) is a weird one. I can't think of any legitimate use in English grammar today, and Wikipedia doesn't seem to mention any. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilde. In the text world, we do use it for some things, like old-fashioned personal website addresses like server.com/~gary
Watching the video, I noticed you change Smith-jones to Smith-Jones with a single keystroke, rather than moving the cursor in front of the "j" hitting the delete key and typing J. What was the keystroke?
Russell: I just selected the j (using the cursor to drag-select it) and pressed J to replace it.
Re the tilde, it is used in Spanish over the letter n to change the sound to ñ, pronouced 'nyay'.
Use ~300 for approximately 300.